sorry if this is the wrong place to post this.

Recently i switched to steam os on my pc, installed battle net and everything went smoothly. I played in beta and i dont have issue but when i play on live my ping would shoot to 1000 to 4000. and it only smooth on the first 10 minutes or so. I dont know what else i should do so any help is appreciated.

things i tried

restarting.

Im using starlink so i tried to relocate the dish.

turning off firewall in my asus modem

turning off firewall in my pc

turning on and off qos

turning on and off ipv6

changing poton

I tried several ping checker and in my browser everything seem normal

  • yaroto98@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    Have you tried using a cellphone hotspot to see if the problem is on the starlink side? They may have congestion that you can’t fix.

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      6 hours ago

      yep i did. i tried both my phone and my wife’s since her and mine has different carrier. still no dice

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        5 hours ago

        Hmmmm dang. I might be a driver issue. I think steamos doesn’t (or at least didn’t last I looked) full hardware support of the full linux kernel. You can try a different os, even just a live usb so you don’t change anything, and test the latency that way.

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      6 hours ago

      there only 3 network setting in the game. and only 2 that are relevant. i tried them and still no dice :c

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    11 hours ago

    Is world latency high, home latency high, or both? Also if you leave a ping running in the terminal (like to 1.1.1.) Is there a matching latency increase with when you see the performance drop?

    I’m also playing WOW Forever on Linux but I’m doing so via Lutris and fiber. So it’s definitely possible. Just need to figure out the bottleneck you’re hitting.

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      11 hours ago

      sometimes world. sometimes home. sometimes both. but never dip below 500.

      ping 1.1.1.1 is consistent around 20 to 30 ms

  • The Picard Maneuver@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    I’ve been playing on steam OS (steam deck) through Lutris, and I’m not seeing any lag from that side of things. Performance was awful until I turned some settings down, but that’s hardware rather than lag.

    My guess would be an issue with your network or ISP.

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      8 hours ago

      i see. i did try changing my network (tethering from my phone) and still same result

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    11 hours ago

    Maybe do a traceroute to the wow server and check what gives latency. It could just be bad service from Starlink which after all is a satellite link.

    Last time I go a very wild issue with proton, I sent all the proton logs to an AI, it honestly found the issue I had (my ISP router had failed to setup IPv6). All my game starting in steam would take a minimum of 30sec to stary. It was proton trying to download ressources over IPv6 and long timeouts.

    Also if you are on Linux you need to say what distribution ypi are using. Alpine or cachyos is a very different environment.

    • wopalopa@lemmy.worldOP
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      11 hours ago

      sorry im linux noob, how to do traceroute?

      I’m on steamos. so i think its arch based

      • Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
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        11 hours ago

        Have you figured out how to reach the Linux desktop yet? Once you do, all you need to do is open a terminal and type

        tracert <your_wow_server_address>
        
        • wopalopa@lemmy.worldOP
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          10 hours ago

          whats the difference between this and ping? i tried ping and it showed normal ms.

          I’m still figuring out how to install trace because right now it says something about my pgp signsture is corrupted, so still working on that

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            9 hours ago

            I am not sure what you are doing but you should not have to install tracert/traceroute as it is in the same utility family as ping.

            Ping tells you the response time between you and your end point. Tracert outputs the response information of every hop along the way to your end point. It helps you pinpoint where the failure is along the way.

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              9 hours ago

              traceroute is a separate package from iputils on Arch.

              tracepath would be included though. mtr is better than both for tracking down packet loss.

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                9 hours ago

                This is just a guess, but turnoff ipv6 and try running the game that way. It might be a network issue rather than a Linux compatibility issue.

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          10 hours ago

          so is it like a program? i tried to install it but i cant because apparently steamos is read only.

          then i disable it, then it asked something something keyring, i did some key init thing, and retry installing traceroute. it said something about import pgp key and its been like that for a bit now.

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            8 hours ago

            SteamOS is an immutable OS so many changes will be overwritten at your next update, but you can always pull a tool down temporarily, or keep a script saved on your desktop!

            Pop the hood open

            sudo steamos-readonly disable
            Pacman is a package manager you’ll have on steamos/arch. Refresh pacman keys and resync database.
            sudo pacman-key --init

            sudo pacman-key --populate

            sudo pacman -Syy
            Install the tool you want (traceroute) sudo pacman -S traceroute
            Close it up again until your next change
            sudo steamos-readonly enable

            Once you’re in a position to use traceroute you can just follow it with an IP or a domain.

            traceroute 1.1.1.1

            It will check each step (hop) along the networking path path between you and that target with details like the round trip time a message took to go there and back to you. Look for a hop where the latency gets bad and stays that way for the rest if the hops like a clog in a pipe. If you don’t see that you’ll probably want to examine with some other tools like mtr that go into more depth.
            https://man.archlinux.org/man/mtr.8.en

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              9 hours ago

              thank you so much for the detailed guide.

              i tried traceroute 1.1.1.1, i dont think i see any weird thing.

              but when i do traceroute the wow server it suddenly stop midway and displaying *** until it stopped

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                8 hours ago

                If you can traceroute to some unrelated cloudflare dns server like 1.1.1.1, then the problem seems likely to be outside your machine, outside your home network, and then we scrutinize what hop it’s failing at to see if we can rule things out further. (I’m making assumptions obviously, this is just how I’d think about it.)

                Maybe that’s your ISP, or something in a data center with a hostname related to wow itself?

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                  8 hours ago

                  i tried the mtr thing, is it okay for me to show it? it looks like there some kind of problem after it hopped outside of the country (im assuming because i see singapore and japan) the rest is ips that im not sure what it is or how to check where is it

                  just to be sure i tried using different network (thethering from my phone) and still same result

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    8 hours ago

    the actual SteamOS is probaby not a good system to use for your PC. I would suggest using a distro that focus on gaming. The SteamOS is focused on the SteamDeck

    Check out this page for a good list of gaming distros. https://distro.watch/distros/category/gaming

    I turned my friend onto Pop and he used it for a bit and then went to something else but he has stayed on Linux so I consider that a great win and a good starting distro for a newbie. It has good nvidia support out of the box.

    I use arch and have built it from the ground up, but I would not recommend that to a newbie. But if you get confident with linux and want to maximize your potential, arch is the way to do it

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      5 hours ago

      Not sure why you’re getting downvoted, but I wonder about that, too. SteamOS is primarily focused on Valve hardware, right? vs. something like CachyOS is Arch-based (so gets live updates/improvements ASAP) or Bazzite (immutable, so hard to break) and both are designed for general PC gaming, so likely have more attention to broad hardware/software/firmware compatibility.

      If I were OP, I’d try live booting CachyOS to see if it works better.