Isn’t that something though? I’m pretty sure lots of good and hard working people “just” have a Bachelor’s in physics. Apart from marks not representing overall capability in a field.
We don’t need to become ableist to come to the conclusion he’s an awful human being, uneducated and unachieved, despite claiming the opposite. His degree doesn’t have much to say there – he didn’t engineer shit. That’s the main point.
This is going to depend a little on the school, but usually something like Physics would be a Bachelor of Science, not Arts. it being Arts often implies it’s a lighter version of the degree that doesn’t have as strict of a requirement to obtain.
In Germany there are two kinds of universities: Hochschulen and Universitäten. If you study Physics at a Hochschule you have less science and more real life applications and you might get a Bachelor of Arts or Engineering, and if you study Physics at a Universität you get a Bachelor of Science.
The physicists who fall out of Hochschulen usually get a job at SAP (“Sammelbecken arbeitsloser Physiker”, pool of workless physicists) and the others get basic assistance or a taxi license. 🙃
What I wanted to say is that the art of the degree says nothing and you have lots to attack him on. If you reduce Musk to his B.A., you basically insult all the good people with a similar degree.
Point me to where attacked him or anyone else with that level of degree exactly?
Simply stating that often when it comes to something like Physics that’s usually a “Bachelor of Science” and if there is a “Bachelor of Arts” then generally speaking it’s a more “Applied” degree focusing more on workplace skills and therefore strictly speaking “easier” to obtain is NOT an attack on anyone with that level of degree.
It does however explain the logic behind someone else bringing it up in the context of talking about how Elon Musk misrepresents himself as some kind of generational intellect and “super talented engineer” when he isn’t one.
Stanford did accept him for a PHD program on that degree. Clearly the degree is worth something.
BA vs. BS usually just indicates how the school organizes programs. My field gets split between the two often depending on how the uni categorizes it, but you can work with either one. For example Oxford only issues BAs.
Plus the degree is from University of Pennsylvania they have a very good reputation and only offer Physics and the natural sciences as BAs. Probably due to historical organization, uni was founded in 1740.
Musk can be okay at Physics and still be evil for numerous reasons
I admittedly didn’t look into where he got his from, so I was speaking more generally about how that organization of degrees tends to work. Usually degrees that have both the Arts ones will be more… “Applied” I guess is the term I’d use? Where they don’t go as heavily into the actual science of it but focus on what someone would need to work directly in that field.
Yeah I doubt I could get a B in Physics. Math is my mortal enemy.
I never really got the need to try to diminish your opponent. If anything it just makes you underestimate them. He can be smart when it comes to math, dumb when it comes to socialization, a racist, and evil all at the same time.
Isn’t that something though? I’m pretty sure lots of good and hard working people “just” have a Bachelor’s in physics. Apart from marks not representing overall capability in a field.
We don’t need to become ableist to come to the conclusion he’s an awful human being, uneducated and unachieved, despite claiming the opposite. His degree doesn’t have much to say there – he didn’t engineer shit. That’s the main point.
This is going to depend a little on the school, but usually something like Physics would be a Bachelor of Science, not Arts. it being Arts often implies it’s a lighter version of the degree that doesn’t have as strict of a requirement to obtain.
Yup. My IT degree is a BA because they wanted to include more degree specific courses vs higher level maths and sciences.
In Germany there are two kinds of universities: Hochschulen and Universitäten. If you study Physics at a Hochschule you have less science and more real life applications and you might get a Bachelor of Arts or Engineering, and if you study Physics at a Universität you get a Bachelor of Science.
The physicists who fall out of Hochschulen usually get a job at SAP (“Sammelbecken arbeitsloser Physiker”, pool of workless physicists) and the others get basic assistance or a taxi license. 🙃
What I wanted to say is that the art of the degree says nothing and you have lots to attack him on. If you reduce Musk to his B.A., you basically insult all the good people with a similar degree.
Point me to where attacked him or anyone else with that level of degree exactly?
Simply stating that often when it comes to something like Physics that’s usually a “Bachelor of Science” and if there is a “Bachelor of Arts” then generally speaking it’s a more “Applied” degree focusing more on workplace skills and therefore strictly speaking “easier” to obtain is NOT an attack on anyone with that level of degree.
It does however explain the logic behind someone else bringing it up in the context of talking about how Elon Musk misrepresents himself as some kind of generational intellect and “super talented engineer” when he isn’t one.
Stanford did accept him for a PHD program on that degree. Clearly the degree is worth something.
BA vs. BS usually just indicates how the school organizes programs. My field gets split between the two often depending on how the uni categorizes it, but you can work with either one. For example Oxford only issues BAs.
Plus the degree is from University of Pennsylvania they have a very good reputation and only offer Physics and the natural sciences as BAs. Probably due to historical organization, uni was founded in 1740.
Musk can be okay at Physics and still be evil for numerous reasons
Yeah, hence why I said it depends on the school.
I admittedly didn’t look into where he got his from, so I was speaking more generally about how that organization of degrees tends to work. Usually degrees that have both the Arts ones will be more… “Applied” I guess is the term I’d use? Where they don’t go as heavily into the actual science of it but focus on what someone would need to work directly in that field.
Yeah I doubt I could get a B in Physics. Math is my mortal enemy.
I never really got the need to try to diminish your opponent. If anything it just makes you underestimate them. He can be smart when it comes to math, dumb when it comes to socialization, a racist, and evil all at the same time.