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thank you for reaching out across the gender divide. I appreciate your posts on the fedi, and I’d like to encourage you to post something, anything for international men’s day on the 19th of November in one of the more female oriented communities to help foster co-operation, collaboration and mutual admiration of each other’s struggle on that day.
Or at the very least, reach out to a chud and remind them of the day so that they don’t act like shit on 8th March.
Because a normal existence requires hardship? How about we strive for normal living and working conditions for everyone.
And fucking shame on employers for not providing a normal place to eat. This is completely illegal in any civilized country.
Is there a country where construction workers are provided with a table and chair for lunch? I haven’t been a builder for that long but we usually just pick a good spot and eat. Looks like they picked a shady spot, it’s probably hot outside.
In sweden long construction projects get these portable, modular barracks called “byggbodar”:
They often have a lunch room, toilets, and showers.
it’s almost as if people can have dignity no matter their job
I’m curious too. I’ve been a field scientist and I want to know who’s job it is to hike into the forest with a table and chairs for us
What country are you from? I’ve never heard of anywhere that requires employers to provide a lunchroom. A lunch break, yes, but not a physical place to eat lunch. Would be interested in how that works for certain fields.
It’s a workplace safety requirement in the Netherlands: https://www.arboportaal.nl/onderwerpen/inrichting-werkvloer/speciale-ruimten (In dutch, but translations work fine).
It needs to fit the people using it, needs tables and chairs so that everyone can sit, needs to be heated and ventilated and it can’t be too dark, dusty, noisy or dirty.
For construction work, they commonly use a construction trailer like this (wikimedia pic), or something a bit more permanent. If the entire job is less than 3 days, employees may be asked to eat lunch in their work van. That’s the entire job, not “2 days here, 2 days next door, 2 days one door over”, or “2 days for you specifically”. A bathroom must still be provided even if it’s a short job.
EDIT: I do workplace safety for a living. I wouldn’t say I’ve worked for every field ever, but I’m reasonably sure I could give a few examples if you have questions.
That’s really great. Had someone respond mentioning something similar is in place in Sweden.
My main question was how that works for trucking and field service work (plumbers, home inspectors, etc). Understandable if you don’t have the exact information. It was interesting enough to see it required generally, because we don’t even have that in the US (I checked Canada and the UK too).
For truckdrivers (and similar) there’s an exception that the cabin of the truck can be used as breakroom. It has to meet the same requirements though. Truckdrivers also can’t drive for more than 9 hours a day and 56 hours a week, and need a 45 minute break after 4,5 hours of driving. Generally, that mixes quite nicely with needing a place to sit and eat and go to the bathroom, since if you’re already required to not-drive, you might as well get out of the seat and eat something.
For people coming to a house, they generally fall under the “less than 3 days” rule, so they can either eat in their van, or (if they’re at a normal, decent person’s house) at the house. In practice, that probably doesn’t happen, and they eat while driving from job A to job B, which is technically not allowed, but nobody can actually check that. The employer is STILL required to provide a toilet though, which occasionally leads to hilarious clauses that require you (as a homeowner) to make your bathroom available to the painter/electrician/whatever, because that’s the easiest way for the company to guarantee a toilet is available.
Would be interested in how that works for certain fields.
Sweden, and it really doesn’t.
Plenty of people eating on the go just to keep the schedule smooth and costs down. That is not a lunch break and shouldn’t be counted as one, it’s normal paid time.
Employer’s that make a fu
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Sure, but the only time counted as a lunch break is from when you walk in and out, the travel there and back is normal paid time.
Mobile restroom toilet trailers for every single site is not cheap, and companies where this tango is smooth tend to succeed, and the ones making a fu
zzssishouldprobablycorrectthatinmyautocorrect usually doesn’tWow, just looked it up and apparently not only are they required to provide a room, but the seats must have backrests and there must be places to store and heat food as well as a place to wash dishes?
That’s really fantastic. We don’t even have that in schools, and children are legally required to eat there.
You read my mind, because I was wondering how exactly that works for field service and transportation industries. Hopefully their union ensures they’re adequately compensated for the disparity.
(Also, not that you asked, and maybe things are different where you’re from, but where I’m from I believe the turn of phrase is “make a fuss”. It doesn’t really matter or interfere at all with understanding your comment, just thought I’d mention in case that’s relevant or helpful to know.)
Usually puts up these for construction:
Truckers have other rules I think.
My first thought was people would call ice on them
-3 ate without table
sadistic rage on my colleagues
*bonk* that’s jail time for you
I’ve eaten my bait at work like this loads of times, it’s quite nice eating al fresco when the weather is nice.
What am I missing?
That there’s no canteen or bait cabin? That they’re eating stuff from home?
read the title of the post
What no labor rights does to a mf
Bothers me that the guys don’t scoot over. Dude on the left is stuck in the sun!
…He could just move to the other end 🤷♂️
For real, expecting 5 people to move instead of me moving makes my skin crawl
What’s a “dad”?
I can be your dad.
Accepted! Thanks, dad!
I know I haven’t really been the most present father in the past, but I want to say that I’m proud of the person you’ve become.
Oddly enough, I appreciated this comment more than you know. Thank you :)
You’re a baby daddy
Careful you don’t get “called out” for misogyny. /s
I’ve seen a lot of actual misogyny and some misandry on the threadiverse but I have not seen anyone call people misogynistic for appreciating dads. And I spend a lot of time here.
Maybe we can leave the resentful gender wars strawmen for reddit please?
(And if you do ever actually see that kinda stuff best to leave them to process their bitterness rather than feeding it. In all honestly the kind to resentment you’re talking about is usually made out of serious trauma and a lot of unresolved hurt. Just leave those people be and let them work through their pain.)
Blame the fault-finding obsession on reddit if you want, but it’s not site-specific. Check the person here wondering if the post is racist because the guys mostly look hispanic, and in his view they’re “eating scraps”. It’s not like I’m imagining this, I’m just not ignoring it.
Scraps? Mole con tortilla aroze, y un jarito de Tamarindo? Man that’s a 20$ plate at a restaurant.
Red flag.
Are we just assuming that all Hispanic construction workers are eating scraps so their families eat well?
It possible that’s the case here, but I work a blue collar job, and if someone took a picture of me eating my left overs in my car over lunch, it would probably send a similar message with the right caption.
I think this has the right intent, but ngl, seems kinda racist, like all hispanics are poor and struggling to make ends meet. This just looks like most white collar lunches I’ve seen and been a part of.
The point is probably the fact that they are blue collar workers, not their ethnicity. That’s all on you.
If this was a picture of all white workers with the same caption, do you think it would be posted here with the same effect?
Blue collar workers in most places in the US are paid well. The caption is written in a manner that paints them as struggling so their children have a next meal. It’s sensationalized and just so happens that everyone in the image is hispanic. Maybe I’m jumping to conclusions, but I don’t think that it’s stretch to get to where I got given the image and caption.
So you saw brown people and you jumped immediately to “scraps” and “struggling” intresting…
I think the point is more that these folks are eating outdoors, on the ground, and not at a table of any sort in the comfort of air conditioning.
Fair enough. For me, it’s often just getting away from work and being with my buds. I just feel that this image is just profiling and sensationalizing the situation. Construction sites often times are in places that don’t have tables. That doesn’t mean that these workers are struggling and sacrificing so their kids can eat, it could just be they are hanging out together in the shade having lunch. I could be wrong, but a single picture doesn’t tell a full story. It looks like most have leftovers, which is just a responsible choice for lunch, and as mentioned, they could be at a location that just doesn’t have cooled amenities, like most outdoor construction work.
No I don’t think anybody is assuming they’re eating “scraps”, unless it’s you - the only person who has brought that up. Same with the racism. I didn’t even notice them being any particular race until your comment. But now you got me thinking, they’re all wearing jeans, maybe there’s some denim hate going on here. Very sus!
I think you’re overthinking it. Not trying to be disrespectful, just giving my opinion.
I think you should be a little more disrespectful to be honest with you.
Scraps? That’s a typical Latino homemade meal wrapped in tinfoil. I had one today that was just like that. Lol It’s kind of odd to assume that we leave the house unprepared when the opposite is literally part of our culture regardless of the country we’re living in.
