Fuck discord.
That’s cool. Thanks for giving our data to Palantir you fucking goons. Can’t wait for that civil suit.
Revolt?
thank you stoat rebrand for ruining that joke
Any FOSS alternative for games?
Mumble
Discord can suck it.
Stop using Discord.
I don’t give a shit about their process spying features, if anything the fact that they didn’t work was a plus.
Ew
Also, fuck discord.
curious if they vibecoded the new client or not
It is absolutely vibecoded.
Suspiciously, as soon as LLMs are able to generate passable code, all of a sudden a ton of apps for Linux appear, that can all do something long thought to be either impossible or too difficult to be worth the effort.
Now, this isn’t necessarily bad in itself. More apps for Linux, that work reasonably well, is great.
What’s bad is this will be used as an argument that AI is wonderful and beneficial for everybody. When all of this could have been easily achieved if a handful of megacorporations just didn’t invest resources into sabotaging non-Windows and non-MacOS software.
As long as they dont let the AI spew @unsafe lines everywhere or whatever the annotation is, at least a rewrite in rust should have some semblance of stability at least though?
They very quickly come out with these features shortly before announcing they’re switching to Rust, so I guess yeah.
Also, a number of features coming to Discord are things which exist in Sable v2, which is also Rust. So while I’m not making an accusation, I’m certainly making a suspicious stare…
They very quickly come out with these features shortly before announcing they’re switching to Rust, so I guess yeah.
Couldnt they have waited to announce it when it was close to being finished?
So discord started the switch to Rust back in 2019-2020. They have an extensive breakdown as to why they made that switch. https://discord.com/blog/why-discord-is-switching-from-go-to-rust
Not saying they aren’t vibe coding now, but it’s not that they just randomly started doing it this year. They’ve been a Rust shop for over 6 years now.
But end of day we should all find alternatives IMO.
Already did. I’m on Matrix.
I have successfully launched my own Fluxer instance for me and my friends on my server a week ago. Runs super well, and the audio/video/streaming quality is superb.
What’s your resource usage like? And do you notice a change with number of clients?
How long until they no longer support their web client? Killing Vencord and third party clients in the process
That would kill browser use too. Which perhaps is the whole idea?
Browser could run as rust via WASM? That’d keep the same rust codebase.
I mean they openly offered the devs of vencord and betterdiscord jobs via twitter… so
Yeah, because Vencord provides a fugton of features. Imagine if you could have those developers work for you instead, and then lock all that behind a subscription…
Nothing of value would be lost.
If this hurts people still too stupid or complacent to still use Discord, I’ll consider it a good thing.
This is kind of cool I guess. Too bad I deleted my discord account back in February
I can’t bcause friends are stuck on PlayStation and it only has discord for comms with PC :(
What you guys don’t have phones
Whoa whoa they’re talking about Discord not Diablo /s
How will you use your phone with a headset on, Normies will not impact their comfort
Love to hear it!
I tried spinning up a Mimble server recently and people just wouldn’t go for it. It works really well but setup and user experience in general is not as friendly, despite great sound quality. We had to move back to discord. I’m not sure what to do as Discord is going to surely get worse with their need to make money.
Your only real alternative is fluxer. Everything is is beyond dog shit as far as normal users are concerned.
Fluxer is a really good open source alternative, if you’re ever trying to move a community off Discord that one is probably your best bet.
What is the issue with Movim? https://movim.eu/
I stumbled upon https://armada.buzz/ recently. It’s based on nostr protocol, should be e2ee. Can’t really tell more as I have to do a proper research. So far it looks very well, judging by my very limited experience.
I’d wait till they have E2EE and federation implemented. They say it should come around early 2027.
Still missing federation but I check every month
Yup.
I will literally spin up an instance the second federation is implemented at least experimentally.
I already tested it and it works pretty well, only thing missing for me is proper encryption. Server owner being able to read all guild and private messages is horrifying.
Why not sooner? Start testing it and stuff. It works really well already.
Because without federation I won’t have anyone to test it with?
Who tf cares how well it works on an instance with a single user?
Until federation is ACTUALLY implemented, my interest remains entirely theoretical. Why would I waste my time at this point?
Make a free server and try it out with your friends?? That’s what I did and we like it. Jesus Christ, chill out lol, wtf.
You literally asked me why I’m waiting, in response to me saying I’m waiting for the one thing that that’s most important to me.
Who the fuck does that?
Our use cases are not the same. Telling me it works fine right now, but without the ONE THING I MENTIONED I WANT does literally nothing for me.
I expect federation to be testable early 2027, full release later in the year
Here’s their roadmap
The popular opinion on Lemmy seems to be Discord sucks, but in my experience, it is far and away the most complete and feature rich chat platform for gamers. Privacy aside, it’s better. That is why it’s so hard to get everyone off it, besides the network effect.
That said, I’m still trying to get my friends off of it (They seem to be open to trying Signal). They don’t care about all those features for the most part, so maybe I have a chance.
Discord has an awful UI and is buggy in my experience.
Feature complete in what way?
You need text channels and voice channels, and a decent way to navigate them. Everything else is just fluff.
So it’s not features people stay for, but luxuries. And perhaps also some sunk cost fallacy to boot, since many spend on nitro and group boosts.
Video and mobile push notifications.
Different people rely on different things, screen sharing and video calling come to mind as features some people use regularly.
Those exist elsewhere already.
No one wants to use 4 or 5 different pieces of software to do the same thing if it can be avoided.
You could just as easily say we dont need a client to do voice and text because we could just use any of the hundreds of voice or text only clients.
No, those exist elsewhere, as in, those that do all those things together in one app. And without being tied to a centralised service which contributes to invasive surveillance and literal, actual fascism.
But even then, using 5 different apps would still be a better choice over going belly up for invasive surveillance and fascism for a convenience.
Those who say otherwise can drop dead.
Me and a friend spun up a Matrix server with Sable as the client and nobody followed. Our solution was to ditch our friends. Both me and him agree that if they’re alright with fascism and authoritarianism because of some convenience they’re not friends.
You no longer consider these people friends because they use Discord? Christ, with friends like you, who needs enemies…
Fascism is something I’m uncompromising over.
Doomed yaoi
Well done 🥳
