People mostly seem to like KDE Plasma more than GNOME, but Ubuntu still seems way more popular. Will Kubuntu ever overtake Ubuntu? Will people ever default to saying Kubuntu instead of saying Ubuntu even when speaking generally about *buntus?
Same questions for other distros like Fedora/Fedora KDE
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“Seems” doing a lot of heavy lifting here.
Plenty of gnome users just use it. No reason to talk about it and lord it over anything else.
No. Most distros have their primary DE. Ubuntu uses Gnome. And Kubuntu doesn’t count as a different distro.
and kde is shite
I won’t happen. If you prefer KDE you should pick another distro. One that doesn’t have an official DE (Debian, etc) or one gives KDE a primary role (OpenSUSE, etc).
I mean, I just use Kubuntu
Ubuntu went to shit long ago
Eh, Ubuntu (definition: can’t configure Debian for us oldies) is just a waystation to better Linux places. It’s saving grace was compatibility to weird and wonderful hardware, ‘just works’. That’s long since been rolled into the kernel, any distro will work with most things.
I gave my kid a bazzite installer when their old motherboard died and they didn’t want to buy M$ again, literally zero issues. Was expecting some, but no, everything they use was fine, or at least they worked it out without my input, proud parent moment. I occasionally give them hints as to how powerful it is, but they don’t care, and that’s great.
I don’t care for Ubuntu myself, but I think it’s disingenuous to paint it as just preconfigured Debian. Honestly, if that’s all it was I don’t think I’d dislike it at all.
Ubuntu still has compatibility for stuff that others dont.
Mostly custom images with weird patched vendor kernels like for ARM or RISC-V, but they also ship the snapdragon images.
On the Asahi front, the hackers chose Arch and Fedora so that was a loss for them
No. There are two major DEs and it’s them. I see neither is going anywhere and more often than not, both are offered to choose from. I think GNOME is often picked as the default because it’s all about simplicity and that makes sense for business-oriented distros like Ubuntu and Fedora
Simply no. Canonical always used GNOME and I don’t see that’s changing.
From the user’s point of view, if you discovered KDE you might have discover other distros as well. Kubuntu still be your start point though, or even where you settle.
Canonical always used GNOME
Ubuntu used to have it’s own GTK based desktop, Unity, from 11.04 to 17.04.
Eh, a small gap in the CV doesn’t change that I guess. :)
Also IIRC Unity started with 10.10, as a netbook edition.
Also IIRC Unity started with 10.10, as a netbook edition.
Yes, but later it became the standard DE. The original Unity was a great DE for Netbooks.
Indeed it was. I still miss the last Gnome 2 version with 2.32 though (I think).
Canonical always used GNOME and I don’t see that’s changing.
except during the period when they used https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_(user_interface)
Well, they try things time to time. They had their own init system, own display server. They eventually went with more mainstream variants, almost every time.
No. There are two major DEs and it’s them. I see neither is going anywhere and more often than not, both are offered to choose from. I think GNOME is often picked as the default because it’s all about simplicity and that makes sense for business-oriented distros like Ubuntu and Fedora
It is for me 🙂
Gnome is better than KDE and I’m tired of pretending it’s not.
You don’t have to pretend. Different strokes for different folks. I like KDE, you like gnome. Let’s hope they both prosper and give more people reasons to leave Windows.
They’re both good in their own ways. What’s better is the choice we have.
When I say Ubuntu I’m typically talking about the Docker image or a VPS’ (non-desktop) server OS. I don’t want to use Ubuntu as a desktop OS so I’ve never given KDE vs GNOME thought at all.
Why would you want to use Ubuntu as a server?
At the end of the day it’s still Linux, and it’s really well supported by documentation, packages and how tos. I tried Debian and ran into some driver issues Ubuntu solved. Why worry so much and just use what works. I’m sure Ubuntu server minimal is similar in weight to Debian anyways.
Using it for years now on my VPS with rootless podman containers and steam game servers. The hardware is moderately dimensioned but it performs very well and is extremely reliable. Never had a borked OS upgrade. Is there any reason you’d advise against it?
Usually it is about the attack surface where more (unnecessary) stuff is running/enabled, the bigger the surface is. Ideally you want as small as possible surface, Alpine is perhaps better in that.
Reducing the attack surface with Gentoo … (I see myself out)
Actually, I use Debian stable on servers by default, only when clients request Ubuntu, I help them admin it. I would never pick Ubuntu for the desktop. Debian and Fedora do a better job being closer to upstream. And: there are snaps which I want to avoid on the desktop.
