No, most YSWSs don’t force you to use bun.js lmao.
Most tutorials assume you use github because it’s… What most people use. Just like how most tutorials about coding in general (not related to Hack Club) also assume you use GitHub. But Hack Club programs intentionally allow you to use any Git service, even your own self hosted one.
About forcing you into using Bambu, I haven’t seen or heard of that and can’t really comment since I don’t do much hardware stuff. All I can say is that is not a thing in the YSWSs I’ve participated in.
This event literally tells you that you will get less if you don’t use sponsored tools
EasyEDA donated discounts to their services you mean? Oh No ThAt’S sO aWfUl TeEnS cAn GeT a DiScOuNt!! It’s just a discount to get your PCBs manufactured. It’s not like it’s encouraging people to buy in to some sort of closed ecosystem or anything, and you still can get stuff from other companies if you want. And from what I can tell, they didn’t raise prices for getting it from other companies.
And as you may already note, they are normalizing Claude and gamifying it
What are you talking about?? One community member made a website that has statistics on how much people use Claude, and suddenly that means that Hack Club is gamifying Claude??
Look, it’s clear you know a lot about Hack Club, so I’m sure you know this, but it seems like you’re pretending it’s not the case, so let me state this:
Hack Club is very loose about what tools you can use. Whether that’s what brands you pick, whether or not you can use AI (up to a certain point), etc. Each Hack Club program can have its own restrictions as they see fit (EG completely banning AI, or having a program about a certain type of software), but Hack Club is not forcing people to use certain brands or use AI, that would be individual YSWSs, which you can choose to participate in or not.
Erm, but ackhually, technically you don’t have to use Vercel or whatever, it’s just because that everyone does that
It’s like LG TVs asking you to accept a bunch of technically optional 300 page license agreements and putting the cursor on “accept”. Technically you may decide otherwise, but you need to already be aware of this beforehand, and most people who would knowingly buy a “smart” TV in the first place would not know.
Hack Club is putting big brands of their sponsors everywhere. You may (sometimes) use more free solutions, but you would need to know these beforehand. And the biggest point of Hack Club is education. Most would literally not know and assume those are the only options.
Erm, but ackhually, technically you don’t have to use Vercel or whatever, it’s just because that everyone does that
Huh? That’s not what I said.
You’re combining 2 separate points I made into one that were never meant to go together.
Please respond to what I actually said, instead of changing it into something stupid so it’s easier to have a come back against.
It’s like LG TVs asking you to accept…
What is like that?
Hack Club is putting big brands of their sponsors everywhere.
I assume you mean products, not brands?
Not really. Sometimes sponsors donate items, and YSWS organizers might put the item as a prize if it makes sense.
But let’s see, Hack Clubs biggest sponsors are…
Elon Musk. Haven’t seen anything about him or any of his companies or products in Hack Club, besides his name on a sponsor list somewhere.
The Thiel fellowship. Same as above.
GitHub. Some guides assume you use GitHub, but like I said previously, that’s because most people use it, and most non HC tutorials also assume you use it. It’s not because they’re a sponsor. Actually, Hack Club has their own free alternative to GitHub and GH Codespaces. They’re definitely not trying to get people stuck on GitHub.
AMD: They donated 16 of their GPUs ig?
NASA (their a partner, idk if they technically sponsored HC): They donated some tickets to the Kennedy Space Center as possible prizes for an event. Is that considered bad? I really don’t think so.
CEO of Shopify: haven’t seen anything related to Shopfiy or any products, advertisements etc.
CEO of Dell: same as above
MIT: same as above
Girls Who Code: same as above
Open Sauce: like we talked about previously, they have partnered together for events, but not to promote any products. It doesn’t seem terrible to me.
Those are Hack Club’s 10 biggest donors. I think this should be pretty obvious: Hack Club accepts donations. They do not sell out to big tech.
Elon Musk. Haven’t seen anything about him or any of his companies or products in Hack Club, besides his name on a sponsor list somewhere.
Can’t be bothered to find the source but he quit a while ago because someone on Xitter managed to convince him that HC is in relation to anti-Tesla protests. Which is false because they would never bite the feeding hands for this exact reason. His contributions were mostly for his own ego, like the AMA promoted him both to kids and to outsiders.
Actually, Hack Club has their own free alternative to GitHub
You mean, git.hackclub.app? hackclub.app is the community hosting platform, so let’s use that argument against you. Even if not, filtering by not forks, not mirrors, not templates (but including archived), there are 6 pages full of 20 items plus 4 more. I don’t know how to filter out 1 commit ones, but there are 12 repos named “test”. Total:
$ bc <<<"6*20+4-12"
112
Now, lets see the page for some old event, like https://highseas.hackclub.com/ . The “last time we did this” portion is talking about an even earlier event, “arcade”. It says “5000” high schoolers participated, implying at least one project per each AND rounded.
and GH Codespaces
Using software maintained by Microsoft, promoting an idea basically only Microsoft is doing. It’s absolutely pointless even on most Chromebooks. Nice try.
AMD: They donated 16 of their GPUs ig?
…and the whole build using the Ryzen® AI thing.
The Thiel fellowship, Shopify
The bare minimum promotion via logo. EDIT: philanthropy page has a shopify shop
MIT, Girls Who Code, Open Sauce
Also non-profits bringing their own politics here.
NASA
Gotta love promoting US nationalism. Also, “talking to astronauts” actually means “talking to someone who will have to talk to 40 more people with their stupid questions to afford food”.
No, most YSWSs don’t force you to use bun.js lmao.
Most tutorials assume you use github because it’s… What most people use. Just like how most tutorials about coding in general (not related to Hack Club) also assume you use GitHub. But Hack Club programs intentionally allow you to use any Git service, even your own self hosted one.
About forcing you into using Bambu, I haven’t seen or heard of that and can’t really comment since I don’t do much hardware stuff. All I can say is that is not a thing in the YSWSs I’ve participated in.
EasyEDA donated discounts to their services you mean? Oh No ThAt’S sO aWfUl TeEnS cAn GeT a DiScOuNt!! It’s just a discount to get your PCBs manufactured. It’s not like it’s encouraging people to buy in to some sort of closed ecosystem or anything, and you still can get stuff from other companies if you want. And from what I can tell, they didn’t raise prices for getting it from other companies.
What are you talking about?? One community member made a website that has statistics on how much people use Claude, and suddenly that means that Hack Club is gamifying Claude??
Look, it’s clear you know a lot about Hack Club, so I’m sure you know this, but it seems like you’re pretending it’s not the case, so let me state this: Hack Club is very loose about what tools you can use. Whether that’s what brands you pick, whether or not you can use AI (up to a certain point), etc. Each Hack Club program can have its own restrictions as they see fit (EG completely banning AI, or having a program about a certain type of software), but Hack Club is not forcing people to use certain brands or use AI, that would be individual YSWSs, which you can choose to participate in or not.
It’s like LG TVs asking you to accept a bunch of technically optional 300 page license agreements and putting the cursor on “accept”. Technically you may decide otherwise, but you need to already be aware of this beforehand, and most people who would knowingly buy a “smart” TV in the first place would not know.
Hack Club is putting big brands of their sponsors everywhere. You may (sometimes) use more free solutions, but you would need to know these beforehand. And the biggest point of Hack Club is education. Most would literally not know and assume those are the only options.
Huh? That’s not what I said. You’re combining 2 separate points I made into one that were never meant to go together. Please respond to what I actually said, instead of changing it into something stupid so it’s easier to have a come back against.
What is like that?
I assume you mean products, not brands? Not really. Sometimes sponsors donate items, and YSWS organizers might put the item as a prize if it makes sense.
But let’s see, Hack Clubs biggest sponsors are…
Those are Hack Club’s 10 biggest donors. I think this should be pretty obvious: Hack Club accepts donations. They do not sell out to big tech.
I was making an https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/analogy with those two paragraphs.
Both.
Can’t be bothered to find the source but he quit a while ago because someone on Xitter managed to convince him that HC is in relation to anti-Tesla protests. Which is false because they would never bite the feeding hands for this exact reason. His contributions were mostly for his own ego, like the AMA promoted him both to kids and to outsiders.
You mean, git.hackclub.app? hackclub.app is the community hosting platform, so let’s use that argument against you. Even if not, filtering by not forks, not mirrors, not templates (but including archived), there are 6 pages full of 20 items plus 4 more. I don’t know how to filter out 1 commit ones, but there are 12 repos named “test”. Total:
Now, lets see the page for some old event, like https://highseas.hackclub.com/ . The “last time we did this” portion is talking about an even earlier event, “arcade”. It says “5000” high schoolers participated, implying at least one project per each AND rounded.
Using software maintained by Microsoft, promoting an idea basically only Microsoft is doing. It’s absolutely pointless even on most Chromebooks. Nice try.
…and the whole build using the Ryzen® AI thing.
The bare minimum promotion via logo. EDIT: philanthropy page has a shopify shop
Also non-profits bringing their own politics here.
Gotta love promoting US nationalism. Also, “talking to astronauts” actually means “talking to someone who will have to talk to 40 more people with their stupid questions to afford food”.