I didn’t realize how bad some of these issues were until I was talking to a woman I work with. She was sort of half considering going back to an old career (white collar, not public facing) instead of our workplace (very much blue collar/male dominated) but she mentioned that she doesn’t want to have to start wearing makeup again. I was a bit confused because I didn’t think that makeup would really be seen as a requirement there. She said it wasn’t a requirement but there was a lot of pressure to do it.
Daily makeup looks almost as bad as occasionally wearing heels to me, but I do neither so IDK.
yeah… “a lot of pressure” translates to “you don’t get hired” if it’s clear you’ll refuse or make a fuss about it or “they make your job painful every day” if you’re already hired and refuse. It depends on the industry and company but it’s pretty standard in most customer facing jobs. It was much worse 20 years ago than it is today
Ya, I kind of gathered that from the way it was described but this wasn’t even remotely customer facing. Not that it makes it ok in customer facing jobs either but it blew my mind.
Edit: My wife almost never wears makeup and breaks some other weird woman control norms and she runs a small retail store (so she’s like the main staff member). Nobody says SHIT, nobody treats her weird, there aren’t any reviews about it, and I don’t see any back handed comments made online. Is this a situation where the only people that care are the wrong people?
ooof then yeah, she’s being pressured into being eye candy for the managers, disgusting
And yep, the only people that care about such things are the wrong people. I had a lawyer show up to an online meeting with me with like a white t-shirt or something super casual like that, he apologized, I couldn’t have cared less because either way he’s super polite and I’m there to get his knowledge and not have him look good for me.
I didn’t realize how bad some of these issues were until I was talking to a woman I work with. She was sort of half considering going back to an old career (white collar, not public facing) instead of our workplace (very much blue collar/male dominated) but she mentioned that she doesn’t want to have to start wearing makeup again. I was a bit confused because I didn’t think that makeup would really be seen as a requirement there. She said it wasn’t a requirement but there was a lot of pressure to do it.
Daily makeup looks almost as bad as occasionally wearing heels to me, but I do neither so IDK.
yeah… “a lot of pressure” translates to “you don’t get hired” if it’s clear you’ll refuse or make a fuss about it or “they make your job painful every day” if you’re already hired and refuse. It depends on the industry and company but it’s pretty standard in most customer facing jobs. It was much worse 20 years ago than it is today
Ya, I kind of gathered that from the way it was described but this wasn’t even remotely customer facing. Not that it makes it ok in customer facing jobs either but it blew my mind.
Edit: My wife almost never wears makeup and breaks some other weird woman control norms and she runs a small retail store (so she’s like the main staff member). Nobody says SHIT, nobody treats her weird, there aren’t any reviews about it, and I don’t see any back handed comments made online. Is this a situation where the only people that care are the wrong people?
ooof then yeah, she’s being pressured into being eye candy for the managers, disgusting
And yep, the only people that care about such things are the wrong people. I had a lawyer show up to an online meeting with me with like a white t-shirt or something super casual like that, he apologized, I couldn’t have cared less because either way he’s super polite and I’m there to get his knowledge and not have him look good for me.
Without saying too much… no.