• ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    45
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    4 days ago

    Imagine this still being a thing today…

    • Honey, I signed up for sack filled with rocks fighting classes at our local gym.
    • Is it about me spending too much time playing video games?

    Also influencers making videos about the best moves to use while standing in a hole with one arm tied behind your back. “Pocket sand! Your wife will never expect it!”.

    • yevunedi@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      edit-2
      4 days ago

      Pocket sand!

      Are you familiar with the teachings of Michael Hundt? He was a 17th century fencing master and some of his techniques included:

      • if your opponent is better than you, just throw your sword at him and run away
      • if someone wants to duell you, tell him you will only duell one of “them”, when he turns around to see who the supposed second person is you are talking about, stab him from behind
      • always carry a handgun with you and if your opponent is better than you, shoot him and:
      • pocket sand

      Honestly, I think Hundt was just a medieval troll and while he does have some genuine techniques, the dirty fighting ones are better known

      • trollercoaster@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 day ago

        Honestly, I think Hundt was just a medieval troll and while he does have some genuine techniques, the dirty fighting ones are better known

        I rather think he did teach actual real world fighting skills and self defence that works, rather than some formalised and well regulated martial arts meant to be practiced as a recreational sport in a regulated environment.

        • yevunedi@lemmy.zip
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          13 hours ago

          Fair. I guess there’s a difference between “honourable fighting” and “wanting to survive” and Hundt prioritised the latter

    • Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      11
      ·
      4 days ago

      “Pocket sand! Your wife will never expect it!”.

      This shit guide didn’t mention it had to be in your SHIRT POCKET, got my ass beat by my wife while I struggled to get into my pants pocket that was buried underground.

  • yevunedi@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    10
    ·
    edit-2
    4 days ago

    Fights like these were actually only supposed to take place between strangers. The wikipedia article seems to only exist in german, so here’s a rough translation, sorry if it doesn’t read well, I’m not very good at translations. Also, as you can see in the pictures, the man in the pit had some kind of club as a weapon, at least according to Talhoffer

    Gerichtskämpfe waren nur zwischen Fremden erlaubt. Durch einen entsprechenden Schwur von sieben Männern aus der männlichen oder weiblichen Verwandtschaftslinie der Kläger/Beklagten sollten Kämpfe zwischen Personen bis zum fünften Verwandtschaftsgrad ausgeschlossen werden (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerichtskampf_zwischen_Mann_und_Frau_(Hans_Talhoffer)#%3A~%3Atext=Gerichtskämpfe+waren+nur+zwischen+Fremden+erlaubt)

    Legal Court fights were only allowed between strangers. Through an oath of seven men from the male or female line of relatives of the accuser/accused, fights between persons up to the fifth degree of relationship were supposed to be prevented

  • im_fine_sandy@nord.pub
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    18
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    4 days ago

    A “rock in a sock” is a pretty epic weapon, because you can build up some real kinetic energy in a swing.

    Breaking a finger would be trivial, a forearm achievable, and a full swing clock on the head could kill someone for sure.

  • Malica@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    10
    ·
    edit-2
    4 days ago

    I’ve had some epic fights these past 22 years and been really angry at him, as I’m sure he has been at me, but I’ve never been beat him with a sock full of rocks mad… I imagine Jensen Huang’s wife is that mad right about now.

    • EinMensch@feddit.org
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      4 days ago

      https://wiktenauer.com/wiki/Hans_Talhoffer

      Talhoffer (famous German fencing master from the 15th century) shows it in his 1459 manuscript but i don’t think there are many more sources for this. It definitely doesn’t seem like this was at all common and as far as i know it isn’t even clear if it ever happened. It might just be an idea by Talhoffer to make a theoretical fight like this more fair.

  • Etterra@discuss.online
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    4 days ago

    This could be the origin of the modern tradition of beating somebody with a sock full of quarters.