Oh more “fake news fake news, Russian would never do organised disinformation and the fact that those accounts align 100% with Russian propaganda doesn’t mean anything!”

Oh man what did Vicky with three kisses gain from pretending to be on the side of the Axis?

I mean, weren’t you the guy saying we should be actually careful about propaganda? But now you’re gonna pretend that organised Russian propaganda on sites literally built by them don’t have any at all, and even if there is why would any account spreading Russian propaganda want to pretend that they’re actually American?

Oh such a mystery, don’t you think? Just can’t grasp my head around the motivations here… Soooooo haaard.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/why-are-russian-trolls-spreading-online-hoaxes-in-the-u-s

https://www.csis.org/analysis/russian-bot-farm-used-ai-lie-americans-what-now

https://arxiv.org/html/2507.23699v1

And ofc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_disinformation

What you do t realise is that by denying literally every criticism of purposeful Russian disinfo, you’re literally aligning 100% with Russian propaganda.

Russia denies that it uses disinformation to influence public opinion.

Despite there being more than enough evidence for concrete proof of it.

So, there’s absolutely 0% chance that Davel, Desssalines, Yogthos and other have anything to do with Russian web brigades?

0% chance? So then, those are all your accounts, and you know that for certain? Which would mean sort of admitting to the opposite, because if you’re a Ruski with several accounts all spreading Russian propaganda, it’s kind of hard to argue there’s literally 0% chance it’s going on, isn’t it?

That’s like being in the lift with someone else, just one other person, hearing a loud wet fart. You know it wasn’t you, but then you look at the other guy and while the stink keeps growing and brown goo comes out of his trouser legs, he’ll still argue “it wasn’t me”.

This is why I find this so entertaining :D

Why is it most likely?

Because… you believed so?

You won’t admit how stupid your argument was, so you shift to something totally different

Well this is undoubtedly the most ironic thing I’ve read this year.

“This guy spreading purposeful Russian propaganda and suckling Putler’s teat to every last inch is actually not a Russian, there’s not even remote evidence he’s a Russian and actually he’s American and that means you should always s question support for the imperialist capitalist forces you remain bound to in your nations comrades! And btw, this is me being socially progressive and not a Marxist-Leninst moron”

Ruahahaha haha

“I’m done here”

No you’re not lol. You’re so mad and like severely on a mission that you definitely won’t stop replying. You’re so utterly utterly utterly pissed because I brought up Синдром Вахтёра but ofc you can’t reply showing you know what I mean.

And when you pretend not to, it’s kind of hilariously. I’d love to play poker with real money with you. Although I don’t accept rubles.

Ah, so I’m equally as likely to be Ugandan, Russian or Australian, or whichever country from, despite having posted photographs of #Finnish so dogtags and having said I’m Finish.

Because prove that it’s not as likely that I’m not Finnish. You can’t. I’m just as likely to be from Uganda. There’s just no way to know! ^/s

Lol. OK buddy.

Yep. The fact you keep thinking you’re good at this is hilarious to me. You do know that people who are shit at things often overestimate their skills, right? You know that’s a fact, right? Oh wait… that joke might require introspection. :(

So Vicky with Three Kisses was undoubtedly a faithful German working for the Reich, right? You can’t prove she wasn’t!

Xdddd

Keep it coming I love it

“let us combat the actual effects of this thing I’m fervently defending while thinking it’s not painfully obvious” Heheheheheheheheheheheh

Oh shit I have to renew my ventoline you’re literally killing me

Oh because you’re asserting random things with literally no rhetoric I behind them, or just saying “nuh-uh, fake news, fake news!”

I’ve followed Davel and friends for literally years. You can repeat yourself all you want, but it’s not gonna make your rhetoric any better, and you’re clearly unable to see it’s quality compared to mine.

It rally would be absolutely trivial for Davel or anyone to prove they’re American, but under the guise of “I don’t wanna dox myself” you keep pretending it wouldn’t. As if posting photos without exif or too much context is soooooo hard, right?

So nothing he says or does is evidence, but there’s also no other data than what he says or does, so no data ever could prove to you he is actually Russian. Because you know you’re lying.

Arrogance has to be earned, my little poo-pah

What’s the proof that he’s Russian?

Literally everything he says and does.

being skeptical, and that includes of you

But only skepticism towards Russia doing disinformation. It’s not like if you were a person who was purposefully spreading Russian disinfo that you’d have a vested interest in literally always being “skeptical” towards anyone trying to catch you out in said disinfo?

No, of course not, what’s the proof for that?

Its hilarious that you don’t realise how utterly garbage your rhetoric is. It’s like arguing a 12-year old irl :D

What’s the proof that Vicky with three kisses was working for the British?

Combating Russian propaganda begins with calling it out for what it is, not sucking Putler’s smegma-y cock every chance you get.

you’re just joking here.

Oh like how you’re joking with this inane “nuh uh, you can’t prove water is wet” thing?

Your rhetoric is hilarious. Let’s go over a bit of it. So you’re grabbing tons of hallucinated implications from my text, while saying that when you write things, it’s purely 100% prescriptive? (Yes, you’re gonna have to Google what that means, unfortunate, isn’t it?)

“I’m quitting not because it’s so hard to even argue water isn’t wet, but because I so sympathetic to people laughing at me”

Genuinely, like, you can’t proofread your own comments or you just don’t see how ridiculous they are? :D

So, again “some pro-Russian useful idiots”. What proof do you have they’re not agents of the Russian government, and are American instead? Oh, did you perhaps hallucinate that? Awww :((

Yeah like I said this is the same thing that Davel did. Pretends there’s no Russian presence on Lemmy, like arguing “water isn’t wet”.

The number one thing I’ve found is the hardcore refusal that any purposeful Russian propaganda or Russian accounts are on Lemmy. It’s a hilariously clear sign of a вахтера

Dessalines, the lead developer and an administrator of the lemmy.ml instance, has faced criticism on communities like the r/RedditAlternatives Subreddit and tchncs.de Discussion Board for comments regarding Russia and geopolitics.In discussions on the platform, Dessalines has expressed strong anti-imperialist, Marxist-Leninist, and multipolar worldviews. His stance on Russia—specifically during the ongoing conflict in Ukraine—has involved the following themes:Geopolitical Justifications: In community posts (such as on lemmy.world), Dessalines has drawn scrutiny for making statements suggesting that criticism of Russia often ignores broader anti-imperialist geopolitics or US foreign policy agendas.Defederation/Moderation Policies: Because Lemmy is federated, individual instance admins can block or “defederate” from others. Many non-ML (Marxist-Leninist) instance administrators and users on servers like sh.itjust.works or lemmy.world chose to defederate from lemmy.ml specifically due to what they describe as “tankie” propaganda, genocide denial, and the handling of these Russian war-related comments by instance admins.Contrasting Views on Authoritarianism: In comment chains arguing about whether communist or anti-Western states like Russia are “authoritarian,” Dessalines frequently pushes back, framing such accusations as “vibes-based analysis” propagated by Western powers.The decentralized nature of Lemmy allows users on different servers to experience completely different moderation standards, so these discussions vary wildly depending on whether you are viewing them on lemmy.ml, lemmygrad.ml, or other interconnected servers.

Sooo, your view is that Dessalines, Davel, Yoghtos and other Marxist-Leninist nuts are all just non-Russians accidentally perpetuating Russian propaganda which actually isn’t even provably Russian propaganda? You know, the explicit Marxist-Leninist politics defending Russia, blaming Ukraine, etc?

Yeah that’s not hilarious at all. :D

Keep going with this, you’ll soon surely wear out my stamina of… being entertained by you. :DDD

Oh man I should reduce smoking you caused me to almost puke because I laughed so hard I started coughing and nearly couldn’t breathe

It’s really not that hard to prove you’re not Russian either. Unless I just happen to be a Russian with finish dogtags and a Finnish calendar just conveniently by me for that reason while actively speaking against Putlerists.

How likely do you think that is?

Oh I’m not. I know he’s Russian. Doesn’t matter to me, personally, what nationality he is from. But unless you’re a politically illiterate and like generally illiterate person who has somehow managed to avoid all news in the past idk, pick whatever time length you want to, you’d know that Russians definitely have a vested interest in manipulating opinions online. (Because the ‘special military operation’ isn’t really going so well, is it? :D More Ruskis for the meatgrinder.)

You don’t think that if you actually knew someone was Russian and actually pushing Russian propaganda, that you have a moral duty to do something about it? Why not? Do you think Russia is right and should be allowed to continue their crimes on humanity? Because… I don’t. I think crimes on humanity are wrong, and I think a fair few people, and the most important international organisations (and laws) agree with me here. Weird, huh? Perhaps you’re just amoral?

Yes, just looking for enemies. Just like Davel, who thinks there are “approximately zero Russian trolls on Lemmy” when he’s active and mods same communities as Dessalines, who is one of the developers of Lemmy, and known to be a Russian Marxist-Leninist.

Perhaps Russian propaganda doesn’t even exist, it’s all just “progressive social media posts”? (This is the sort that makes me laugh, as if anyone even remotely politically literate would confuse “progressive social media posts” with authoritarian propaganda. I’m sure people do, as there are plenty of politically illiterate people. That’s what Russian propaganda relies on, lol.

“Have you seen this Russian propaganda first hand” Uh, yeah, most definitely. Again, one would have to be politically illiterate not to have.

Because it’s not hard to Google “davel lemmy” and see a dozen accounts of him speaking fluid Russian.

How many Americans you know of whom learned to speak and write Russian in their adult years?

did it struck a nerve or something?

It clearly did. For the Russians on the platform. “Nah uh, we’re good liars!”

Ruahahaha. Russians might be decent in chess but the rhetoric is ridiculous and entertaining. Although I can understand that this sort of “water isn’t actually wet” discourse is “complicated” by US or Russian literacy standards.

Oh hunny, you believing things isn’t proof. :((

How many Americans you know of who learned to speak fluent Russian in their adult years?

You’re pathetic.

random accusations with no heads or tails that I don’t think can be meaningfully responded

You mean “rhetoric I won’t address because it’d show how wrong I am, so I just go there to put in childish comments implying defense of Russia and how the US sucks”

This is literally like a teenage “philosopher” trying to argue how “water isn’t actually wet”.

Genuinely I’ve had good laughs and I was somewhat lonely tonight so thanks :DD

“Please find the screenshots you took of some lunatic Russian 4 years ago” yeah they’re actually on my PC, but it shouldn’t be hard for you to Google “davel lemmy” and see all the different accounts he has. Although since I’ve stated pointing it out, after he started evading me, he’s also deleted the comments I’ve screenshot and shared.

Again thanks for the giggles

Correct.

So what the proof that Davel is American? How many Americans or people in general, do you know of, who have learned to speak fluent Russian in their adult years?

Oh so you’re allowed to whatabout and make up bullshit, but no-one else can?

You’re literally whatabouting. “But what about the American victims of propaganda, how can you be sure Davel isn’t one of them” you sad sack of shit and your brigading alts to make you look even remotely reasonable.

“I’m just asking questions” is genuinely so fucking tires rhetoric. No you’re not. You’re using questions to assert Davel isn’t Russian.

What makes you believe he isn’t Russian?

Oh wait, I wasn’t allowed to ask questions, only you?

, that’s obvious from your profile. huuuuh?

Really? That’s all you have to say. Kinda reminds me of a JD Vance interview here actually. Instead of furthering the discussion anywhere, you go in with shitty whataboutism or other “just questions” and never even contribute to threads.

I can both recognise Russian propaganda and know that not everyone who spreads it is personally Russian.

Is Davel “everyone”? Oh wait, perhaps Davel, Yogthos and other pathetic little Russian shills are all the same person, and because you’re having a hard time keeping up “who you are” because you’re everyone, you’re also me, but have forgotten it?

Or perhaps you were exaggerating, since very clearly don’t assume “everyone” who accidentally spreads Russian propaganda isn’t Russian. But Davel is, I know that for a fact.

You can cry all you can but if you read his profile and even look up other profiles he’s had with the same name and content, you can (if you’re literate, but I think that won’t include you, sorry) look at his profile.

Just like I said, you’re a shitstirrer who got angry that Davel got talked about. This happens all the time on Lemmy. That’s why everyone know what garbage heaps lemmy.ml and lemmygrad are. You know, the instances which Davel mods and speaks fluent Russian on?

There’s massive intentional Russian propaganda being spread by Russia exactly on poorly moderated platform like Lemmy. And everytime you point it out you get one of you whiners goin “no they’re actually American, definitely, they smell of the decadent capitalist West, just like comrade Lenin thought us here our motherland… no wait. I meant Nixon, and am of living in United States!”

Thanks for the laughs little вахтера

Dude posts in other accounts with fluid Russian. I’ve even got some screens somewhere.

Why would you question something so clear and simple, unless you mean to dissuade people from the notion that Russia has organised propaganda online and to imply that they aren’t on poorly moderated platforms like Lemmy to do it.

Also, Americans don’t keep referring to the US as “the imperialist West”.

But you’re just a shitstirrer, that’s obvious from your profile.

So you just can’t recognise Russian propaganda spread purposefully when you see it, no matter what?

And you think posting that here is gonna be popular, lil вахтера?

He says shit like this while insisting he’s an American

He’s banned me from any community/instance they have power over, and for the longest time, never posted anywhere he wasn’t a mod on.

Look at me. Look at me. I’m the moderator now.

Edit the post, thread and this comment really got all the Ruskidefenders crawling out of their holes. You haven’t better shit to do on a Saturday than pretend that Russia isn’t bad and does not practice disinfo. Okay. ;> it’s quite entertaining, but they’re clearly trying to brigade the comments below, expecting I’ll run ouf of stamina to answer all of the “water isn’t actually wet” bullshit as it’s pretty funny. I won’t. But I am short on time today

I see a few people who don’t really dare comment on this community are currently on my profile mass downvoting.

Greetings to Russia! Enjoying your autocratic shithole?

Well, why is he floating in a barrel?

Carts a cutback?

Were you a kid when N64 came out?

Carts lasted ages longer than discs. Sure for some actually responsible adult player discs would probably have been better but for preteens fighting with their siblings on who’s turn it is and what will be played…?

(We once ruined a PS2 game because we had it upright and it fell and the disc took such a deep scratch it never worked past that point again. I still feel guilty and feel I missed out on HP2. And that was 5 years after we got a N64, so PS1 discs would’ve been even more at risk.)

The controller is weird by modern standards , yeah, but it wasn’t too weird at the time. It’s sort of like two controllers in one, a more classic form like the snes and the basic ps1 controller and a more modern one with a joystick with the middle-handle.

There was no weirdness at all using it when it came out. The “basic” model (think xbox controller) only came out a bit later.

But nowadays? Idk, I don’t have one, but we tried playing Goldeneye 64 with my brother and man the control schemes were all over the place and I couldn’t for the life of me get “in the groove” and we used to play 4 player deatmatch a ton for years and I was ace at it.