What did it do exactly?

Im in a happy monogamous marriage, but I’ve always seen the logic in this and completely agree. Marriage and coupling really hasn’t evolved with changes in society. A lot of peoples criticism of polygamy and polyamory feels mostly like insecurity to me. The cases I’ve seen have often been healthy situations. The cases were it isn’t healthy often has to do with already existing power dynamics (religion) or confirmation bias.

I largely agree with much of what you’re saying. I just think people draw lines in odd ways. Bill burrs comedy subverts all of the commerce he supports. He seems to want the same type of people he makes money, to die. But everyone should cancel him over one show? His work is culturally supporting things we believe in. Certainly people should draw lines in the sand, but they should also look at the big picture.

Are you saying we should all just starve in the streets on principle?

Obviously the opposite, I’m saying people exist in a world filled to the brim with shitty people and connections to those shitty people are inevitable, especially if you gain success. I could probably find at least one cancelable offense in every famous person you respect, given enough time, probably everyone you know personally as well. We are quick to toss people aside in today’s world without taking the totality of who people are. If the totality of who they are is shitty that’s one thing, but if they are already a reasonably decent person this moral purity test is ridiculous.

Bill burrs response that he was told he could say what he wants, and it felt like in opportunity to reach an audience living under a strict authority, seems perfectly consistent with the rest of his public persona.

The money and power that person gets from their commerce makes that a pretty silly distinction, imo. I think the problem is really the story we tell our minds is easier to picture with a cartoon villain present in daily media we consume.

With that said, if I was in his shoes I wouldn’t have performed there, so im not exactly ready to die on this hill. I just think some of the lines we draw seem arbitrary, and stopping watching these comedians that have made all sorts of evil billionaires money, just because of one show under a shithead, seems silly.

Then you may want to look into some of the corporations and owners that run the stadiums comedians perform in. When he and john Stewart and a bunch of othes performed in Madison square garden a few days back, owned by trumps rich buddy, or basically any of the major venues in the USA, no one said anything. No one is innocent under capitalism, if you make money in this environment you have blood on your hands every day.

Every government in the world does tremendous evil if you look carefully enough. If boycotting comedy in horrible countries was a prerequisite for comedy, we would have no comedy.

There is the changemyview sub but it didn’t really get the traction here that it had on reddit.

Sure, and you are the most sane person I’ve seen from .ml. Most of them act like Putin and Xi Jinping are humanitarians with rainbows shooting out of their asses and that any criticism of their authoritarianism is propaganda.

The propaganda issue goes all ways.

Very little you said here is controversial on Lemmy. Its more the glazing of sociopathic authoritarians that winds people up. Just because they pretend to be socialist while building their power through capitalistic oligarchy.

But if you just want to critisize western imperialism, I think you’ll nearly always find common ground.

Here’s a perspective. Some years ago a nonprofit (aclu maybe?) offered a large sum of money for an example of voter fraud that would have been prevented by an ID, they never had to pay out, iirc. If IDs don’t prevent voter fraud, why require the extra burden?