• stalin420 [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    I’m Cris Hayes and I think that Louis the 14 just wanted the best for his people, motivated by a sincere belief that the peasants needed a king to inspire them with a castle made of gold

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    This was my favorite part of the Chapo appearance on that one shitlib podcast, Skullduggery. He was doing the same whimpering about different ideas and legitimate disagreement, and the Chapos said people talk about this like it’s “I want spaghetti” vs “I want a hamburger” when it’s more like “I own this copper wire factory and want to dump my industrial waste in the river” vs “we live in a town downstream and don’t want to die”. There’s no symmetry between these positions and vague gestures about differences of opinion only obscure the fact that so many of these bullshit debates are fundamentally people fighting for human welfare vs people with enough money and power to deny those people.

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    I mean, I know people have competing values

    They want me dead and aren’t bashful about it

    There is no benighted ignorance here, just those who want to profit off my suffering and toil and those who want me to die for the crime of being brown and queer

  • Damarcusart [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    “Left and liberal discourse”

    Pretty sure this is an exclusively liberal thing, pretty sure leftists understand that other people can disagree with us since like, 90% of society is trained to do so automatically dismiss anything we say without thinking.

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    Hayes thinks of himself as “on the left”. WTF. He replies here.

    Wait, you think that is unique to left and liberal discourse?

    I don’t but it’s one I would like to see less of on the left because that’s the political community I spend the most time embedded in and which I’m most a part of

  • InevitableSwing [none/use name]@hexbear.netOP
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    I think it’s pretty funny he posted this after an election where the dems won all over the place. So many libs don’t want to confront the fact that right next door the people might not be “beknighted”. In fact - they might be as hateful and racist as the people in a highly militarized Nazi compound in Northern Idaho.

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      This word “beknighted” is weird to me. Are they talking about making someone a knight, or do they mean benighted? And why not just use ignorant? Benighted is a weird, archaic word, and people should be shamed for using it

      Someone please un-nighten me if I’m missing some special jargon

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        Benighted is a weird, archaic word, and people should be shamed for using it

        let’s not get ahead of ourselves, unless a word is discriminatory or some sort of right wing shibboleth i don’t think it deserves an expiry date

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          I was being mostly sarcastic about that, but I also get annoyed when people (especially liberals) use obscure words to sound smart. I think this is why Chris Hayes used it (actually, the incorrect beknighted) instead of a more obvious one

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        I’m a word nerd so I love etymology, and legit benighted is a cool ass word actually, from etymyonline:

        benighted(adj.)

        1570s, “overtaken by darkness,” past-participle adjective from obsolete verb benight (q.v.). Little used in the literal sense, usually it means “in intellectual or moral darkness” (1630s).

  • InevitableSwing [none/use name]@hexbear.netOP
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    gosh why in the world would we have any reason to think that politicians and media figures are corrupt and bought off

    He cried for Chris Matthews. 😂

    In that subthread they make it seem Hayes literally cried. Did he?