• HalfSalesman@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Except, every time I talk about my brain as if it was a separate entity to other people they get annoyed at the implication that my actions aren’t simply my pure and magical free will.

    I’m only autistic though not ADHD. At least as far as I know. And this tends comes from any person (though typically allistic in particular), not just neurotypical people.

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      Volition and intent tends to line up with action in those that are neurotypical. A good example is the broken speech ordering disorder some people have either congenitally or due to trauma. They try and speak regularly, but the autonomic part of the brain responsible for converting that signal into verbal communication is borked.

      Interestingly enough, even if it is working properly, you can still trip it up which is why we have tongue twisters and spoonerisms.

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      Well, yeah, no shit.

      Maybe provide an example, because I’m picturing someone making a mistake and claiming it was “their brain that made them do it”. Which, ND or otherwise, is a lame ass excuse. If it actually was a direct consequence of being ND then I would at least expect the respect of discussing it in a mature way.

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        Trouble saying “socially constructive lies” instead of either uncomfortable silence or even just saying the uncouth thing out loud, avoiding talking over people and vocal volume control, hang ups relating to autistic perfectionism, obsessive behavior in general.

        Like, these aren’t really things I can avoid doing. I know because I’ve tried. I mean, I can temporarily stop but that just usually leads to becoming incredibly burnt out, alienated, or depressed.

        On a meta level, I don’t believe in free will anyway.

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          That makes sense, that wasn’t the mental image I had in my picture. It’s hard for me to understand why someone would react that way then if the sequence was, for example

          A: Says something awkwardly too loud

          A: “Sorry my brain made that too loud”

          B: Disgusted look

          In that interaction, person B is a jerk IMO.

      • Equinox1289@sh.itjust.works
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        Would you complain that someone with a speech disorder was disrespecting you for not speaking to you properly?

        • NotAnOtter@lemmus.org
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          Did you not read my comment before responding? I explained what I was picturing & asked for an example of what they meant in case they weren’t aligned