• diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de
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    22 hours ago

    Also, how are they advertising through Slack? I’m active on there and I haven’t seen that.

    It is flying over your head that you are on Slack in the first place while you otherwise wouldn’t.

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      22 hours ago

      I’m not sure what you mean. I joined so I can chat with other people who are interested in Open Source and coding. What’s your point?

      Also, you’re avoiding answering my question…

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        9 hours ago

        Yes, and you are now using Slack. You know what Slack is. It is a paid product. You are now more likely to suggest or vote for opening a Slack workspace for a team. And a few dozen other people, too. You are now less likely to use your skills to work towards alternatives, something that Zach promised back in 2016, and also in 2025 when he promised to fork MatterMost.

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          20 hours ago

          Ahh I see. I thought you meant advertising through Slack, not advertising Slack itself. Honestly the fact they use Slack is one of my least favorite things about Hack Club. That said, although I heavily prefer using only open source software, there are very few organizations who do that… Yk, “you can’t let perfect be the enemy of good”. Rejecting anything that’s not perfect is unrealistic. What we should do instead, is try to improve things.

          I don’t know about this promise Zach supposedly made, and I can’t read about it since that article is paywalled. Kind of ironic trying to hate on a organization for using a paid product, while you’re evidence is hidden behind… A paid product.

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            9 hours ago

            paywall

            Interesting, loaded fine for me the other day. Although the paywall is gone if I just disable scripting. UBlock Origin has a button for that, it’s the </>.

            Also, just realized that Lemmy rewrites links which fucks up the pretty new highlight anchor standard… I should probably open an issue about that eventually. But page search for “Slack”.

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              47 minutes ago

              Got it to load. No, he did not promise to work towards an alternative (though I have heard him say elsewhere that he would like to switch to an alternative). He mentioned that one member was working on an alternative as their own project, that’s all.

              This is the second time you’ve tried to make what one individual is doing as a personal project sound worse than it is, then making it sound like Hack Club as a whole is the one doing it (the first time claiming that HC is “gamifying claude”). Hack Club is a huge community, what a few individual members do doesn’t represent the whole of Hack Club. This just feels disingenious.

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                40 minutes ago

                he did not promise to work

                No CEO does any work of course, someone else does

                As for the Claude counter, look at the leaderboard. That’s slightly more than a single person.

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                  The point is that you claimed that Zach promised something that he never promised. Why?

                  No CEO does any work of course, someone else does

                  He’s not a CEO. He’s the founder. And he did, and continues to do, a lot of work to make Hack Club what it is. He isn’t a billionaire with 15 homes.

                  As for the Claude counter, look at the leaderboard. That’s slightly more than a single person.

                  It’s a huge community. Of course there are a lot of people who use AI. Guess what… There’s also a lot of people who a very anti-AI. And personally, I think communities are healthier when we accept that not everyone has to agree on everything.

                  Also, you’re missing the point. You claimed that Hack Club was gamifying Claude, linking to a project that one community member made. That’s what I meant by one person. I wasn’t claiming that only 1 person in Hack Club uses Claude.