• gastroglizzy@piefed.social
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      12 days ago

      Hitler executed about 8 million people, about 6 million of whom were jews.

      Stalin starved about 20 million people.

      Mao oversaw the Great Famine, following his order to kill all the sparrows in China, which lead to the starvation of 60 - 80 million people, depending on who’s counting.

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        12 days ago

        Oh, genocide denier I see… Hitlerites murderd 13 milion people in camps and other genocidal pursuits. Why are you minimizing the deaths of industrial genocide and emphasizing deaths of poorly timed policies?

        Also fun fact, treating beneficial animals, insects and plants as pests was nothing new at the time and continues into the present. But why bother to investigate things you’re talking about am right?

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      Hitler intentionally killed about 5% of noncombatants in Nazi-controlled areas of Europe. We aren’t including soldiers at all. Under Mao, around 2.5% of China died in famines that could be partially attributed to aggressive industrialization. Arguing that Mao was worse for mismanaging industrialization than someone that industrialized mass murder to deliberately kill “undesirables” is horrendous historiography. It isn’t a coincidence that Mao is near universally loved in China while Hitler is near universally hated in Europe.

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      Their censorship isn’t working anymore. The walls are breaking down, people are using VPNs, and Chinese people are talking to us on western social media sites. They can still believe it’s all western propaganda lies, but they can’t hide from the truth anymore.

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    How are they so thin-skinned? You’d think tankies would have thick, armoured skin, like a… Well, like a … rhinoceros 🦏

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    The encapsulation of Mao:

    “If the worst came to the worst and half of mankind died [in nuclear war], the other half would remain while imperialism would be razed to the ground and the whole world would become socialist.”

    Zapp Brannigan revolutionary with no plans beyond bravado. There was/is no universe where a nuclear holocaust ends in sunshine and roses instead of the (functionally) permanent crippling of the human race. That lack of critical thought is still infecting leftist conversation today: vastly underestimating the cost and implications of actions and relying on blind appeals to moral determinism.

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      11 days ago

      what metric for seriousness would you choose instead?

      because providing healthcare, clean electric power and high speed rail would be pretty fucking nice if we could get some here.

      meanwhile we have trump, using ice at the polls… seriously democratic shit there.

      not a fan of china, but I do wish we had their solar and rail outputs…

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      13 days ago

      Challenge accepted.

      Goes on English posting site

      Shakes fist at Foreign county

      Posts low-key racist memes

      Nobody in China knows or cares

      We did it Reddit Lemmy!

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          It’s not. The commentator above is just using Israeli style conflation to attempt to dismiss any critique of the Chinese government as racist against Chinese.

          Side note: For the record, I’m not racist. I hate everyone equally.

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    12 days ago

    China, dude, relax. With Trump in the white house you’re so perfectly poised to take the throne… why you gotta ruin it by being a petty betty?

    We can talk a trade deal, but first you have to unwind.

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      12 days ago

      it wouldn’t be wise for any country let alone china to be trying to strike deals with the US, even moreso now that they are even more openly meaningless.