Then people there could say “That’s not what it’s like here at all” and suddenly propaganda debunked.
.mls absolutely depend on the epistemic bubble to create a void of knowledge that they can fill with their BS. Anything that says anything bad about the PRC is “western propaganda.” All their sources are PRC propaganda, but since it’s non-western they claim that makes it valid.
That explains why I don’t seem to notice many Chinese trolls here. Chinese trolls are more direct and less subtle. They are always reactionary to comments and their responses to criticisms are always PR-sounding. At least that’s my experience in Reddit.
Russian trolls, meanwhile, I have to say they are more clever because they always pretend to be from another country. But with the flailing invasion of Ukraine, they have become increasingly less subtle than before and don’t even hide it.
Liberals become like blood and soil nationalists for ethnic groups contained within the countries of their state’s enemies, but then dress it up as decolonization. You don’t want Tibetans to be free, or Tatars, Uyghurs, Kurds, or any of those ethnic groups conveniently only in Russia, or China, or Iran.
It’s obvious that you have ulterior motives.
What you are actually insinuating when you say things like that, is that the US or NATO or whatever should go in and support the separatist faction to balkanize those countries and weaken them. Like the neocolonialist playbook.
Or a more subtle variation on that where instead of saying we all should outright support insurrection/regime change in [Country opposing Western imperialism] you say that we shouldn’t support them against US/NATO aggression because they have [insert internal issue] and that makes them deserve it, or that they’re both bad so don’t support either side.
On the off chance you don’t want that, ask yourself: what can you actually do to help [issue] in [China, Russia, Iran, DPRK, etc.]? And if you live in the West, the answer is:
Almost nothing, those problems have to be solved by people over there, but you can help, by protecting them against your terrorist-ass government.
Yeah but if a company is caught fucking up they face actual consequences and not record profits lol. Those companies also can’t influence government policy, rather the government tells the company its limits on surveillance and data retention.
No one’s protecting the US either here. I think most people here agree that the US, China, and Russia all suck currently and are all trying to control the narrative in multiple countries, corrupting them as well.
You don’t need to align yourself with another country to see that one sucks.
I always find it to be the ultimate irony that .ml is blocked in China.
Little spez puts in work parroting their state propaganda and they don’t like him either.
You don’t have to like or respect the lackey you hire to get a job done.
Basically they are only for outside propaganda. They dont want their psy ops become known for inlanders.
Then people there could say “That’s not what it’s like here at all” and suddenly propaganda debunked.
.mls absolutely depend on the epistemic bubble to create a void of knowledge that they can fill with their BS. Anything that says anything bad about the PRC is “western propaganda.” All their sources are PRC propaganda, but since it’s non-western they claim that makes it valid.
Wait, are you saying they block the lemmy instance, or do they block the .ml TLD altogether?
I’m not sure how accurate this site is though.
The anarchist instance is not blocked either LMAO
(If that site is accurate)
haha, oh wow.
We need to test this on lemmygrad.ml
Very
This ip probably sits outside the firewall.
I’m not sure what those mean.
I suppose they’ve used a proxy / VPN in China to test whether the site is really not reachable from there.
What are the chances the Chinese are technology savvy enough to figure out it’s a VPN?
That explains why I don’t seem to notice many Chinese trolls here. Chinese trolls are more direct and less subtle. They are always reactionary to comments and their responses to criticisms are always PR-sounding. At least that’s my experience in Reddit.
Russian trolls, meanwhile, I have to say they are more clever because they always pretend to be from another country. But with the flailing invasion of Ukraine, they have become increasingly less subtle than before and don’t even hide it.
When they’re from China they’re trolls, lmao?
Free Tibet
Already done, you missed the party!
Under Chinese control is not free
Liberals become like blood and soil nationalists for ethnic groups contained within the countries of their state’s enemies, but then dress it up as decolonization. You don’t want Tibetans to be free, or Tatars, Uyghurs, Kurds, or any of those ethnic groups conveniently only in Russia, or China, or Iran.
It’s obvious that you have ulterior motives.
What you are actually insinuating when you say things like that, is that the US or NATO or whatever should go in and support the separatist faction to balkanize those countries and weaken them. Like the neocolonialist playbook.
Or a more subtle variation on that where instead of saying we all should outright support insurrection/regime change in [Country opposing Western imperialism] you say that we shouldn’t support them against US/NATO aggression because they have [insert internal issue] and that makes them deserve it, or that they’re both bad so don’t support either side.
On the off chance you don’t want that, ask yourself: what can you actually do to help [issue] in [China, Russia, Iran, DPRK, etc.]? And if you live in the West, the answer is:
Almost nothing, those problems have to be solved by people over there, but you can help, by protecting them against your terrorist-ass government.
Well they used to be slaves, then China freed them, so yeah I’d say Tibet is pretty God damn free, now, lmfao.
Under new slave masters, sure.
Source?
Most people use a VPN in china
Truly, a sign of a free nation.
Free from Facebook, palantir, and NSA surveillance, sure
Because wee chat is a free from any surveillance?/s
Duuur good thing they don’t have their own surveillance and social media companies that do the exact same things.
So stupid it hurts.
Yeah but if a company is caught fucking up they face actual consequences and not record profits lol. Those companies also can’t influence government policy, rather the government tells the company its limits on surveillance and data retention.
I mean, durrr
Companies get away with all kinds of shit in China. You really have no fucking clue.
Companies literally run the government and write its policies in America, lol.
The US and China are in bed together. I don’t think you really understand what is going on.
No one’s protecting the US either here. I think most people here agree that the US, China, and Russia all suck currently and are all trying to control the narrative in multiple countries, corrupting them as well.
You don’t need to align yourself with another country to see that one sucks.
K but one is the global superpower lol.