I want to visit west Taiwan one day, or as some people call it: “China”.
If you respect China, you’re a piece of shit. Taiwan deserves independence, Hong Kong does too, so does Tibet, and so does East Turkestan.
This is helping me filter people. These are true beliefs I hold and if you give me the “MUH TIBET HAD SLAVERY” thing, good job you bought into propeganda.
I eat ass.
If you respect China
China as a country, a people and a culture deserve respect. The current power structure doesn’t.
They literally can’t complain…
Or what?
The social credit system
Lmao. The one that doesn’t exist?
it doesnt take much searching to find out it does…
if you want to lie, at least be competent about it
That is a fascinating graph indeed. Ever wondered why official rape rates can be much higher in very progressive countries than in ultra-convservative countries where women have few rights, even if rape is illegal there? Hint: It is not because there are necessarily more rapes.
Lmao
No arguments, I see.
I’m waiting for an argument against my data.
Did you think your comment was worthy of rebuttal, lmfao?
So no argument, except for “your argument does not count because I say so”. Ok. .ml style.
It certainly highlights a level of self-denial.
Over a billion people all just so in denial.
That’s what propaganda does. China isn’t a free democracy.
I’m sure you know better than the actual Chinese people polled. Thanks for setting the record straight.
and when North Koreans say the Kim gang are great, we should believe them.
I see what you’re getting at but you only need to glance at the US to know that a lot of citizens of a country do NOT know WTF they’re talking about when it comes to their leadership.
Some times it takes an outsider to see the problems, and I’m not alone in seeing massive democratic problems in China. You don’t know who participated in that poll (and neither do I) was it random people on the street or pro party people? With the amount of surveillance in China, I probably would think twice before speaking against the party.
The communist party has the sole power in China, while other parties technically are legal they haven’t got any power higher than city/regional level.
And then there’s the corruption, they have massive problems with that.
And before you go “hurr durr other countries bad” yes other countries do have problems and some may be worse than China, but that doesn’t legitimise Chinas government.
Your point is that China is exceptionally nationalistic? Based on a subjective study. Nice hard facts there. What’s really awesome is that the source is partnered with Taiwan Foundation for Democracy. An organization explicitly aiming to distance Taiwan from China and strengthen it as a independent democratic government.
Info from 2003-2016 saying the population of China is extremely nationalistic… Again… what’s your point?
Keep thinking buddy, you’ll figure it out eventually.
What a good way to convey your point.
These are true beliefs I hold and if you give me the “MUH TIBET HAD SLAVERY” thing, good job you bought into propeganda.
I mean, so did almost literally everyone else to some degree, unless they went extinct as hunter-gatherers. If that’s your disqualifier, you need to go live with the penguins in Antarctica.
The argument isn’t that Tibet once had slavery at some point in it’s history, but that Tibet had slavery up until the PRC ended it. There are no states in the modern day that practice slavery or serfdom in a comparable way (you could argue things like “wage slavery,” but that’s still significantly different from chattel slavery or serfdom). Slave states do not have the right to exist, and any nation without slaves has the right to invade a slave state and free the slaves. That’s not an unreasonable standard, it’s a standard that exists today.
any nation without slaves has the right to invade a slave state and free the slaves.
This one doesn’t ring well. It is one thing if the oppressed people themselves asked for help, but otherwise its just an invasion. No nation has a ‘right’ to free slaves.
any nation without slaves has the right to invade a slave state and free the slaves.
If you believe that’s objectively true then I suspect you need to ask yourself “why aren’t governments everywhere banding together to obliterate the actual slavery going on inside their borders?”
Those discord user account compromises and social media accounts asking for gift cards to avoid releasing your personal whatever aren’t legitimate businesses and the people performing those actions for them are not free to quit or even leave the buildimg they “work” in.
Okay, you could maybe argue that’s one-off tourist kidnapping by criminal parties at scale, but then we have blood diamonds. How is it they still exist?
Vegas hotels getting regular visits from cops as the drugs wear off early and the occasional girl escapes from the room she’s being held in, the fact that the superbowl is the world’s largest human trafficking conference, large portions of haiti under the current regime, slavery is EVERYWHERE and whoever is feeding you that line and placing the onus at a governmental policy level is trying to distract you from reality and hand-wave away anything that doesn’t line up with their own agenda.
The world banded rogether to eliminate CFC’s because of the ozone hole.
It’s clear we CAN all cooperate, so I posit you should be asking yourself: when reality doesn’t line up with the convenient point-proving “statements of fact” someone is pushing your direction, what does someone stand to gain from misrepresenting reality with quotable sound bytes?
Wat
TAIWAN NUMBER ONE
Fuk you, Western pig
That doesn’t mean they’re from China. They might just be from lemmy.ml . 😏
I always find it to be the ultimate irony that .ml is blocked in China.
Little spez puts in work parroting their state propaganda and they don’t like him either.
You don’t have to like or respect the lackey you hire to get a job done.
Basically they are only for outside propaganda. They dont want their psy ops become known for inlanders.
Wait, are you saying they block the lemmy instance, or do they block the .ml TLD altogether?
I’m not sure how accurate this site is though.
The anarchist instance is not blocked either LMAO
(If that site is accurate)
haha, oh wow.
Very
This ip probably sits outside the firewall.
I’m not sure what those mean.
I suppose they’ve used a proxy / VPN in China to test whether the site is really not reachable from there.
What are the chances the Chinese are technology savvy enough to figure out it’s a VPN?
Most people use a VPN in china
Truly, a sign of a free nation.
That explains why I don’t seem to notice many Chinese trolls here. Chinese trolls are more direct and less subtle. They are always reactionary to comments and their responses to criticisms are always PR-sounding. At least that’s my experience in Reddit.
Russian trolls, meanwhile, I have to say they are more clever because they always pretend to be from another country. But with the flailing invasion of Ukraine, they have become increasingly less subtle than before and don’t even hide it.
When they’re from China they’re trolls, lmao?
Free Tibet
Already done, you missed the party!
Under Chinese control is not free
Well they used to be slaves, then China freed them, so yeah I’d say Tibet is pretty God damn free, now, lmfao.
Man, came here looking for them. Little disappointed.
You just didn’t wait long enough. One lemmy.ml user (emphasis on “ml”) posted in this thread just a few minutes ago.
Found him
Yeah
Damn. I know this is a shitpost (and a funny one) but this is actually a neat strategy as a rough filter for bad people, like on dating sites or such.
I think I’ll start using this. Thank you OP! <3Put the anti douchebag statement at the top:
“Trans rights are human rights. Free Palestine. Systemic racism exists. Feminism benefit everyone. No war but class war.”
Saves a lot of time.
I saw one where they asked the other person to say Taiwan is an independent nation and to say (type) the words Winnie the Pooh, and they wouldn’t. That’ll do it.
OTOH, if I was traveling to China every so often, I would likely be also cautious with writing such things. For a similar reason I likely shouldn’t enter the US any time soon.
“bad people” lmfao.
Literally 12
I love that you have a personal go-to insult and it’s calling people 12-year-olds. It’s cute. Wholesome even. Keep it up.
Thanks for the important contribution to the discussion 👍
Don’t mention it, that’s what this community desperately needs after all.
Fair, lol
I’d rather be young than a tankie with the Chinese flag that far up my ass 🤷♀️
Gotta say, it’s really in there! How does that even happen?Classic lemmy.ml troll, btw
Oh shit, am I one of the bad people you were talking about!? Tell your parents!
Literally 20 years old, probably still younger than you and enjoying my youth. Okay, clown lol
Ah shit, you are actually really young. Sorry for being so confrontational, but good guys and bad guys is a very naive way to view the world.
😎
It’s fine lol. Just…there are probably better ways to express your opinion/disagreement
good guys and bad guys is a very naive way to view the world
Should have made it clearer, what I meant is “bigoted assholes”
Of course, just sick of hearing westerners calling China the bad guy when it’s objectively America who’s been destabilizing the globe for 80 years, lol
Yes, 20 day old .ml account.
You are indeed one of the imperialist regime worshippers this post is talking about.
Lmao China is imperialist for wanting to reunify with a country that also calls itself China? What are you smoking?
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Cre8 more, I can’t w8.
How about with rice?
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That’s a meme I haven’t heard in long time…
I R8
I use this strategy on my dating profile as well to weed these people out 🤣
Taiwan doesn’t even think Taiwan is a country?
1w old clanker account vibes.
What do you mean?
Taiwan calls itself the real China, lol.
They stopped that a couple years ago iirc
Oh yeah?
The constitution still claims that they’re China, but they can’t change that claim in the constitution because China doesn’t want them to. China doesn’t want Taiwan to exist as a independent country, and changing that in the constitution would very likely provoke military attack from China.
What the president and their diplomats have been doing these years, is just avoiding claming either way, but acting like they are indeed an independent country named Taiwan.
China wanting anything other than peaceful reunification is blatant cia propaganda Imo.
Where?
Over there
Maybe I’ll start asking the spam calls this
I don’t think any peasant worker in The Philippines has strong opinions either way.
Kashmere belongs to Pakistan?
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Now that’s a shitpost.
.world memes be like
.ml memes be like:
Uyghurs deserve to be genocided because terrorism.
Or
Ukraine are nazis and deserve to be genocided by Russia.
While somehow still saying democrats are the genociders.
Show us an example of someone saying anyone deserves to be genocided, then.
How can I when you’re all genocide denialists?
How about you show me a .ml member defend Ukrainians or Uyghurs?
No, no, I mean actual proof. Like quote it and link it. Go ahead, should be super easy if it’s so prevalent and literally every single one of us do it.
I think you might be having issues comprehending my last comment so I’ll leave you to it so you can work it out.
Uhh, no I totally understood it, you’re too cowardly, lazy, or stupid to back up your own statement, lol.
Show us an example of someone saying anyone deserves to be genocided, then.
It’s a very simple request, is English not your first language?
Yeah I’m pretty sure there’s still comprehension issues here on your end.
Show us an account that wasn’t made in the last month.
What do you mean?
Youre racist now
Impossible
I mean that the fake texts with intentionally bad spelling stereotyping Chinese people acting like a racist charicature is similar to the racial charicatures of the 1800s, was that unclear?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_Taiwan
Get out of here.
The texts werent even a caricature. Your claims of racial stereotyping are absurd.
I’m not sure how that has anything to do with anything I said.
The texts werent even a character. Your claims of racial stereotyping are absurd.
Lmao. Yes, the Chinese scammer breaking character at the mention of Taiwan to say “Fuk you,” definitely not a charicature or stereotype and it’s totally absurd to suggest it.
What’s next? Just start making jokes like full on, “Me so horny, me love you long time?”
Do you acknowledge that Taiwan is an independent country?
What do you mean? Taiwan is independent for all intents and purposes, but is not, nor if I’m not mistaken does it claim to be, formally an independent country. I acknowledge that reality, yes.
Taiwan is an independent country.
Taiwan, officially the Republic of China (ROC) is a country in East Asia
The joke is expressedly about china not accepting taiwan as a country.
Fuk you, .ml pig. <— satire demonstrating anyone can be hateful in this way.
No, it’s not about “China” not accepting Taiwan as a country, because “China” does not typically engage in text messages, seeing as it’s not a person.
It’s about a stereotypical Chinese person acting and speaking in a way that the person who created the fake texts decided to make them. Which is, first trying to scam people, then being so triggered by the mention of Taiwan that they break character, then misspelling a word in a stereotypical way.
Taiwan is just how you justify the rest of it to yourself.
You dont understand jokes and certainly arent as intelligent as you wish you were.
Not typically but it does sometimes…
But they didn’t have texts in the 1800s and that’s a political cartoon used to support the Chinese exclusionary act. I think you may be confused. I take it you’re a fan of Taiwan and its sovereignty then?
But they didn’t have texts in the 1800s
Yes, this is what makes it a joke. Because the only difference is the format that’s changed, while the racial sensibilities are about the same.
Chinese exclusionary act not anti scamming propaganda.
Hey now, if you get to define your racist charicature in your own terms, don’t you think you should let them do so to? I’m sure the Workingmen’s Party of California would say that it’s just “anti-capitalist” propaganda, the capitalists being the ones who let those damn Chinese come in and take our jobs.
Of course, it’s bullshit in both cases.
I take it you’re a fan of Taiwan and its sovereignty then?
What does Taiwan have to do with anything?
Is English your first language?
Yes.
“charicature” isn’t a word. You’re looking for caricature and not only can you not spell it but you clearly don’t know what it means. You posted a racist caricature, I did not. Everything else you’ve said is also false. Me asking “what do you mean” is bait and I figured you’d say dumb enough shit to embarrass yourself/.ml. congratulations, ya dun it.
Oink!!
