• NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml
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      21 hours ago

      Right, that there’s no social credit score in China, but that a credit score in america can decide what you can drive, where you can live, and what jobs you can get lol.

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        21 hours ago

        No, that’s not what either of our sources say… you didn’t look at them, did you? I’m going to sleep for the day, that’ll give you time to read up on what you sent lmao.

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            21 hours ago

            I just read your article for you. Its not looking good for your argument, chief. It even links to another that explains the system in place.

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              21 hours ago

              The one that they tested, hated, and discontinued? Or the one that’s set up to keep businesses from scamming citizens, lol?

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                16 hours ago

                No your article explicitly states that the systems still exist they just don’t have teeth because of all the other covert surveillance systems China has in place.

                So your argument sucks and so does your idealization of China.

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                    All of this does not mean that the SoCS is benign. It also does not imply that China’s broader surveillance apparatus is a myth – quite to the contrary. However, public debates typically do not focus on these aspects. Rather, the interest in the system often stems from broader anxieties about digital technologies, as reflected in the UN pledge and similar actions taken by other countries. Often, the SoCS is merely invoked as a metaphor: either to depict some technological threat at home or to portray a techno-dystopian China.

                    This is symptomatic of a tendency to see China not as a real place with real people, but as an abstract “negative opposite” of “us”. While our discussions on tech in China remain overshadowed by largely fictional scoring, we ignore real threats of surveillance to exactly those people in China. And when we use the SoCS to invoke the image of a technological threat at home, we lose sight of potentially acute technological threats much closer to reality.