• Hagdos@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    On today’s episode of “Neurodivergent people claiming normal human behaviour as neurodivergent”:

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      Except, every time I talk about my brain as if it was a separate entity to other people they get annoyed at the implication that my actions aren’t simply my pure and magical free will.

      I’m only autistic though not ADHD. At least as far as I know. And this tends comes from any person (though typically allistic in particular), not just neurotypical people.

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        Volition and intent tends to line up with action in those that are neurotypical. A good example is the broken speech ordering disorder some people have either congenitally or due to trauma. They try and speak regularly, but the autonomic part of the brain responsible for converting that signal into verbal communication is borked.

        Interestingly enough, even if it is working properly, you can still trip it up which is why we have tongue twisters and spoonerisms.

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        Well, yeah, no shit.

        Maybe provide an example, because I’m picturing someone making a mistake and claiming it was “their brain that made them do it”. Which, ND or otherwise, is a lame ass excuse. If it actually was a direct consequence of being ND then I would at least expect the respect of discussing it in a mature way.

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          Trouble saying “socially constructive lies” instead of either uncomfortable silence or even just saying the uncouth thing out loud, avoiding talking over people and vocal volume control, hang ups relating to autistic perfectionism, obsessive behavior in general.

          Like, these aren’t really things I can avoid doing. I know because I’ve tried. I mean, I can temporarily stop but that just usually leads to becoming incredibly burnt out, alienated, or depressed.

          On a meta level, I don’t believe in free will anyway.

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            20 hours ago

            That makes sense, that wasn’t the mental image I had in my picture. It’s hard for me to understand why someone would react that way then if the sequence was, for example

            A: Says something awkwardly too loud

            A: “Sorry my brain made that too loud”

            B: Disgusted look

            In that interaction, person B is a jerk IMO.

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          Would you complain that someone with a speech disorder was disrespecting you for not speaking to you properly?

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            24 hours ago

            Did you not read my comment before responding? I explained what I was picturing & asked for an example of what they meant in case they weren’t aligned

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      I think I realised this the first time I heard someone talk about ego death or derealization as a result of a drug trip and I was like oh so like that feeling in between two rooms when you die and everything stops just before the new room’s program loads another you up?

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      You would be surprised how much of normal as “sane” is not normal as “the way most people are”

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        Yeah even anecdotally everyone I’ve ever got to know really well turned out to be just as fucked up as everyone else. But like some people do this kind of chemistry with their fucked-upedness where they hijack it to the benefit of themselves or others.

        Pardon my subjectiveposting